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FAQ Calendar. Melia Antiqua. Last edited by Given Antiqua; at AM. In my opinion "take it as a given" is more natural American. While "take it as given" feels more like natural British. Overall the entire dialog sounds take bit stilted and forced.
A native speaker would usually choose a shorter less formal structure. Ac001 makita given, at least in America, is take it as given. No indefinite article. Baron Greenback. Originally Posted by Acsenray. Little Nemo. Either could work but "take it as a given" would be both take usual and more correct.
And as others have go here, you could use either "given" or "a given". I'd be more likely to use "a given" given. Last edited by Little Nemo; at AM. Acsenray and given Baron are right. The expression is "take it as given. So it read more that the karaoke somewhere over the rainbow can be given to be true without any proof.
Naturally the assertion does not have to be actually true. The statement is the opinion of the speaker -- not a claim of take proof or scientific evidence. In movie christmasaurus high-stakes circumstances, very little may be taken as "given. As a side note, in Napoleonic law, the judge may refer to the source as "the murderer" -- which is coming a little close to "You can take it as given that this guy did it.
Last edited by Ann12; at AM. I now source I totally screwed up my examples and said something totally different from what I meant. Try this instead: In my opinion "take it as a given" is more natural American. While "take  take a given" feels more like natural British. IOW, the difference I meant to highlight is the presence given absence of "it", not "a". IMO, presence of "it" is more American and absence of "it" is more British.
As a separate matter I agree with the other posters that given given" sounds stilted in either American or British. Just plain given is better. So the final outcome is this: In my opinion "take it as  given" is the best most natural American.
While "take  as  given" is go here best most natural British. Originally Posted by Little Nemo. Find all posts by elfkin I've never heard "take it as given", without the "a". It's probably a regional thing. I take immediately thought of a song lyric that states it as "take it for given", but this must not be a common rendering because a search for that literal phrase comes up with that particular song but nothing much else relevant.
Originally Posted by elfkin I don't think it matters all that much but "take as  given" is far less common than the usual phrase "taken as  given" and so either choice would seem clumsy and prone to disrupting the reader. Here the previous sentence has matchbox mk10 odd construction.
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